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FORUM PRE LINUXOVYCH ZACIATOCNIKOV

GNU/Linux je slobodny operacny system. V minulosti sa pouzival hlavne na serveroch, vdaka svojej vysokej kvalite, stabilite a vykonnosti, ale postupne si prerazil cestu aj na pocitace domacich uzivatelov. Uzivatelov oslovuje stabilitou, vykonom, komfortnym uzivatelskym prostredim a cenou, nakolko je prakticky zadarmo. GNU/Linux sa siri v roznych distribuciach. Linux ma svojho maskota,tucniaka, vola sa TUX Cielom tohto fora je pomoct zacinajucim uzivatelom pri prechode z inej platformy (Windows, OS/2, atd.) na operacny system GNU/Linux a riesit akekolvek problemy ktore sa mozu vyskytnut pri instalacii a behu softwaru na linuxovej platforme.

HARDWAROVE NAROKY

GNU/Linux sa da bez grafickeho prostredia uspesne prevadzkovat na akejkolvek masine triedy i386, ale so standardne nastavenym grafickym prostredim (KDE, Gnome) su hardwarove naroky priblizne podobne ako pre Windows XP, to znamena minimalne 128 MB RAM, ale optimalne je 256MB (plati aj pre win XP) a procesor aspon 200 Mhz. Dalsie graficke prostredia maju nizsie naroky na pamet. Typicka systemova particia pre najnovsiu distribuciu zabera ~4.5 gigabajta, teda pre system plus dokumenty plus nejake miesto pre kompilaciu programov. Pri minimalnej instalacii sa jedna o cca. 150 megabajtov, pricom takym uplnym extremom su jednodisketove ci dvojdisketove distribucie.

AKO ZACAT

  • pozriet si DOKUMENTACNY PROJEKT (napriklad tu je v pdf formate na stiahnutie 16M) a/alebo existuju aj mnohe knihy na temu linux, ktore si mozete zakupit v knihkupectvach, napr. od vydavatelstva Grada. Kopu knih, dokumentacia, FAQs sa da stiahnut z Internetu.
  • ziskat jednu z DISTRIBUCII linuxu. Tychto distrucii je vela, na stranke distrowatch.org su linky na rozne distribucie teda si mozete vybrat najvhodnejsiu distribuciu pre Vas.
  • precitat si navod na mediu s distribuciou

DISTRIBUCIE

V mojom zozname najdete najrozsirenejsie distribucie. Ak chcete pouzivat GNU/Linux len ako alternativu Windows, teda nechcete venovat studiu vela casu, odporucam instalaciu "klikacich" distier. Najlepsi je podla mna OpenSUSE. Ak chcete mozete zacat aj distribuciami "pre profikov" (v skutocnosti ale taketo rozdelenie neexistuje, je to moj vymysel), ratajte s tym ze rozbehnutie grafickeho prostredia a dalsich zalezitosti ako zvukovej karty ci dalsieho hardwaru vyzaduje hlbsie studium relevantnych materialov a dobre znalosti systemu - ako zaciatocnici sa mozete dostat do na prvy pohlad neriesitelnych situacii.

DISTRIBUCIE PRE ZACIATOCNIKOV, TEDA "KLIKACIE" DISTRIBUCIE


Ubuntu

Fedora Core

OpenSUSE

DISTRIBUCIE PRE POKROCILEJSICH

KDE HLADAT POMOC A NAVODY

INFOPORTALY&NEWS

INFOPORTALY&NEWS, Anglicky

GRAFICKE PROSTREDIA

V klikacich distribuciach su v sucasnosti najrozsireniejsie graficke rozhrania (GUI) Xfce, KDE a Gnome. Tieto rozhrania su v neustalom vyvoji.

DOSTUPNY SOFTVER

Volneho softveru je nepreberne mnozstvo, prakticky na kazdu ulohu sa najde aspon jedn vhodny. Tu su webky, ktore vam mozu pomoct nestratit sa vo svete FOSS softveru a najst dostatocne kvalitny softver podla potreby:

LIVE DISTRIBUCIE
Dobry sposob ako si zacat s linuxom je na niektorej z live distribucii, tj. distribucie ktore sa spustaju priamo z CD/DVD. Niektore z nich umoznuju aj instalaciu na harddisk alebo si dokazu ulozit konfiguraciu a pracovne subory do specialneho suboru alebo particie (toto vedia napr. live distra zalozene na slackware, napr. Puppy Linux)




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Prospero
 Prospero      07.07.2019 - 17:45:23 [1K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190706

After 25 months of development the Debian project is proud to present its new stable version 10 (code name "buster"), which will be supported for the next 5 years thanks to the combined work of the Debian Security team and of the Debian Long Term Support team.

In this release, GNOME defaults to using the Wayland display server instead of Xorg. Wayland has a simpler and more modern design, which has advantages for security. However, the Xorg display server is still installed by default and the default display manager allows users to choose Xorg as the display server for their next session.

Thanks to the Reproducible Builds project, over 91% of the source packages included in Debian 10 will build bit-for-bit identical binary packages. This is an important verification feature which protects users against malicious attempts to tamper with compilers and build networks. Future Debian releases will include tools and metadata so that end-users can validate the provenance of packages within the archive.

For those in security-sensitive environments AppArmor, a mandatory access control framework for restricting programs' capabilities, is installed and enabled by default. Furthermore, all methods provided by APT (except cdrom, gpgv, and rsh) can optionally make use of "seccomp-BPF" sandboxing. The https method for APT is included in the apt package and does not need to be installed separately.

Network filtering is based on the nftables framework by default in Debian 10 "buster". Starting with iptables v1.8.2 the binary package includes iptables-nft and iptables-legacy, two variants of the iptables command line interface. The nftables-based variant uses the nf_tables Linux kernel subsystem. The "alternatives" system can be used to choose between the variants.

The UEFI ("Unified Extensible Firmware Interface") support first introduced in Debian 7 (code name "wheezy") continues to be greatly improved in Debian 10 "buster". Secure Boot support is included in this release for amd64, i386 and arm64 architectures and should work out of the box on most Secure Boot-enabled machines. This means users should no longer need to disable Secure Boot support in the firmware configuration.

The cups and cups-filters packages are installed by default in Debian 10 "buster", giving users everything that is needed to take advantage of driverless printing. Network print queues and IPP printers will be automatically set up and managed by cups-browsed and the use of non-free vendor printing drivers and plugins can be dispensed with.

...

Wenn es etwas im Leben gibt, dass die menschliche Seele anspricht, dann ist es Liebe und Schönheit.

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mirny
 mirny      21.06.2019 - 15:51:42 , level: 1, UP   NEW
Existuje nieco ako Speedfan pre linux?
Vsade nachadzam iba aby som pouzil lm-sensors a pwmconfig,
ale toto si iba automaticky prenastavuje rychlosti fanov v zavislosti od telpoty.
Ja by som skor potreboval, aby som vedel manualne natvrdo nastavit, ze fan1 nech bezi na 80%, fan2 na 100%, cpu fan na 75% atd.
Je take nieco, lebo s k nicomu takemu neviem dopatrat.

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ulkas
 ulkas      23.06.2019 - 12:53:20 , level: 2, UP   NEW
jasne. ty vies pristupovat k jednotlivym vetrakom na priamo. potom ti uz len staci skript na ktory kliknes a on to spusti. namojom starom laptope mi odislo automaticke chladenie tak som si cez lm-sensors zistoval teplotu cpu a podla toho zapinal uroven vetraku kazdych 30sekund:

ako pisal ventyl dole, tak cesta je:
/sys/class/thermal/cooling_device*/curr_state

staci ti postupne skusat zapisovat do tych suborov a cakat, kam to ten vetrak vytiahne. subor max_state ocividne ma ten limit. zapisujes jednoducho cez :
echo 1 > ..../curr_state
echo 6 > ..../curr_state
echo 0 vypina. mne to zvyklo trocha blbnut tak pri starte systemu mam echo 0 vsade a vzapati nastavim pozadovanu hodnotu uz.

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mirex
 mirex      22.06.2019 - 00:04:00 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Ludia odporucaju alternativy:
https://alternativeto.net/software/speedfan/?platform=linux

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ventYl
 ventYl      21.06.2019 - 17:25:36 (modif: 21.06.2019 - 17:25:54), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
zalezi od toho, co o tvojej doske vie kernel, ale v /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device* je mozne, ze budes mat priamo raw interface na ovladanie vetrakov.

presny sposob ovladania toho vetraku moze zalezat od toho ako su vetraky v kerneli podporovane. ja na mogbooku mam moznost cez iny platform-specific interface priamo ovladat rychlst vetrakov.

Shitty life is like radiation. You can sustain it for long time if daily doses are small.

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SYNAPSE CREATOR
 krvsh      29.04.2019 - 15:55:22 (modif: 29.04.2019 - 15:56:10) [1K] , level: 1, UP   NEW  HARDLINK !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Na svojom (Ubuntu) PC nemôžem ani zaboha rozbehať desktop aplikáciu k Signalu - stále sa pokúša pripojiť na staging server, kde ale nič/nikto nefunguje, takže sa nemám ako spárovať s telefónom... viz z logu"

{"name":"log","hostname":"default","pid":23055,"level":30,
"msg":"opening provisioning socket https://textsecure-service-staging.whispersystems.org",
"time":"2019-04-29T13:51:20.736Z","v":0}

Preinštalovať nanovo som skúšal x-krát, furt to isté. Hrabal som sa v súboroch aplikácie, či sa to niekde nedá nastaviť, nič som nenašiel. Skúšam to už X verzií. To isté robí beta. Na inom stroji s Ubuntu mi to funguje v pohode. Písal som na support, ale samozrejme žiadna reakcia.

Nestretli ste sa s tým už niekto? Neviete prípadne, čo s tým?
Dík.

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DFH
 DFH      13.03.2019 - 19:01:28 , level: 1, UP   NEW
Linux lite 4.2.
dokazem zpojazdnit tlaciaren LBP6000b? canon..
aj by na to mali byt drivery linux-capt-drv-v271-uken
ale proste len pending,processing status a nic sa nedeje
velmi by mi pomohol nejaky lame postup

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      14.03.2019 - 12:27:41 , level: 2, UP   NEW
akurat nainstalovat tie balicky a preklikat este raz pridanie tlaciarne na http://localhost:631/admin (CUPS)

cndrvcups-capt_2.71-1_amd64.deb
cndrvcups-common_3.21-1_amd64.deb

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mirex
 mirex      14.03.2019 - 09:37:41 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Skus pohladat nejaku diskusiu na tu tlaciaren a linux vseobecne, snad najdes navod ktory fungoval na inom linuxe a zaberie aj u teba. Hladal by som "LBP6000b linux pending"

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sestra
 sestra      04.03.2019 - 21:58:14 , level: 1, UP   NEW
https://www.linuxwochen.at

26. bis 27. April: Eisenstadt
26. bis 27. April: Graz
02. bis 04. Mai: Wien

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divinorum
 divinorum      22.02.2019 - 14:12:05 (modif: 22.02.2019 - 14:12:17), level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Na dokine nemám HDMI port, iba Display Port. Kúpil som konverzný kábel, ale vždy mi hodí RGB mode limited a namiesto čiernej mám sivú - nejaká pičovina podľa špecifikácie, to je jedno. Má sa to dať vyriešiť nasledovným príkazom, ale neprejde to. V xrandr sa vôbec nevyznám, akákoľvek pomoc je vítaná. Vopred vďaka.

PS: ano, je to Intel karta/driver
$ glxinfo|egrep "OpenGL vendor|OpenGL renderer"
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2)

$ xrandr --output DP-2-2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)
Major opcode of failed request: 139 (RANDR)
Minor opcode of failed request: 11 (RRQueryOutputProperty)
Serial number of failed request: 57
Current serial number in output stream: 57

1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      22.02.2019 - 14:19:24 , level: 2, UP   NEW
co hovori "xrandr -q --prop"

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divinorum
 divinorum      14.03.2019 - 18:22:28 , level: 3, UP   NEW
bol to bug, chlapci z Intelu to celkom promptne fixli.

1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.

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divinorum
 divinorum      25.02.2019 - 16:48:37 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Hovorí, že pri multi streame to tam asi fakt neni dpč (jedná sa o ten DP) :/

$ xrandr -q --prop
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 900, maximum 8192 x 8192
eDP-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
EDID:
00ffffffffffff0006afed2300000000
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1e505400000001010101010101010101
010101010101143780a670382e406c30
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6c30aa0058c110000018000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000002
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scaling mode: Full aspect
supported: Full, Center, Full aspect
Broadcast RGB: Automatic
supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
1920x1080 60.03 + 40.02
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Content Protection: Undesired
supported: Undesired, Desired, Enabled
Broadcast RGB: Automatic
supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
audio: auto
supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Content Protection: Undesired
supported: Undesired, Desired, Enabled
content type: No Data
supported: No Data, Graphics, Photo, Cinema, Game
aspect ratio: Automatic
supported: Automatic, 4:3, 16:9
Broadcast RGB: Automatic
supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
audio: auto
supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Content Protection: Undesired
supported: Undesired, Desired, Enabled
Broadcast RGB: Automatic
supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
audio: auto
supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Content Protection: Undesired
supported: Undesired, Desired, Enabled
content type: No Data
supported: No Data, Graphics, Photo, Cinema, Game
aspect ratio: Automatic
supported: Automatic, 4:3, 16:9
Broadcast RGB: Automatic
supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
audio: auto
supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
DP-2-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
DP-2-2 connected primary 1600x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 598mm x 336mm
_MUTTER_PRESENTATION_OUTPUT: 0
EDID:
00ffffffffffff004c2d670b55353043
15180103803c22782a9791a556549d25
0e5054bfef80714f81c0810081809500
a9c0b3000101023a801871382d40582c
450056502100001e011d007251d01e20
6e28550056502100001e000000fd0032
4b1e5111000a202020202020000000fc
00533237443339300a202020202001c0
02031af14690041f1303122309070783
01000066030c00100080011d00bc52d0
1e20b828554056502100001e8c0ad090
204031200c4055005650210000188c0a
d08a20e02d10103e9600565021000018
00000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000061
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad
1920x1080 60.00 + 50.00 59.94
1680x1050 59.88
1600x900 60.00*
1280x1024 75.02 60.02
1440x900 59.90
1280x800 59.91
1152x864 75.00
1280x720 60.00 50.00 59.94
1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00
832x624 74.55
800x600 72.19 75.00 60.32 56.25
720x576 50.00
720x480 60.00 59.94
640x480 75.00 72.81 66.67 60.00 59.94
720x400 70.08
DP-2-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
non-desktop: 0
range: (0, 1)
link-status: Good
supported: Good, Bad

1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      25.02.2019 - 17:53:58 , level: 4, UP   NEW
a ten DP-1 a DP-2 si skusal? je mi to trochu divne, lebo ja mam na docku DP-2-2 a DP-2-3 na VGA a DVI. tam tiez nepise podporu pre toto.

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divinorum
 divinorum      26.02.2019 - 10:11:02 (modif: 26.02.2019 - 10:11:49), level: 5, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Jop, je to to isté - proste na DP cez dokinu mi dá limited pre to dané rozlíšenie a musím používať nižšie, ak chcem full (napevno je Automatic mode). Údajne je to podľa nejakej divnej špecifikácie a nie je to bug. Problém je, že to proste neviem prepnúť do normálneho full RGB, čo už imho bug je.

1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      10.02.2019 - 12:16:08 (modif: 10.02.2019 - 12:17:43) [4K] , level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
neviem ci pre uplnych zaciatocnikov, ale vcera som podal danove priznanie z linuxu (debian 9 stretch), skusim opisat ten priebeh ako si pamatam:

0. zacinal som uz s funkcnym eid klientom, s ktorym mi fungovalo prihlasenie. myslim, ze som nikdy ani neinstaloval driver, iba deb balik (eidklient_amd64_debian.deb), ten ma aj upozornil, ze je novsia verzia

1. registracia na financnasprava.sk cez obciansky v pohode, nieco som tam musel povyplnat, prisli overovacie maily. myslim, ze login zafungoval az ked som nainstaloval a spustil DLauncher.linux.x86_64.zip - uz neviem odkial bol a naco ho potreboval, ked som nemal validne certifikaty... https://www.slovensko.sk/sk/na-stiahnutie

2. nasiel som na webe formular pre priznanie, vyplnil, exportol do XML. odporucam preskocit a vyplnat az na #4

3. stareho eid klienta som musel nakoniec upgradnut, aby mi vydal nove podpisy (Aplikacia_pre_eID_amd64_debian.deb - EAC_MW_klient). robil som to asi styrikrat, lebo pri prepinani ploch mi to vzdy skapalo.

4. podanie sa robi cez eDane java aplikaciu, ktora ma aj XML import. nahodil som tam prilohy v PDF, podpisal, prihlasil sa do podatelne (cislo a heslo) a po minute hotovo
https://www.financnasprava.sk/sk/elektronicke-sluzby/elektronicka-komunikacia/elektronicka-komunikacia-dane/edane

na spustenie som nainstaloval icedtea-netx: javaws eDane.jnlp

7/10 would do again

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ulkas
 ulkas      21.02.2019 - 15:00:37 , level: 2, UP   NEW
ja stale nemam odvahu nainstalovat ten deb balicek. nie je to open source, instalujes pod rootom nieco, co ani nevies overit (naposledy to nemalo ani hash control sum ani pgp podpis a ani len https downoad sa mi zda, mozno teraz to uz je lepsie) a za druhe comu nemozes vobec verit (ktovie kto to programoval, ci tam nie su programatorske chyby pripadne umyslene zadne vratka). a do virtualky sa to tiez neda instalovat, lebo citacka eid mi neprejde usb driverom tam

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mirex
 mirex      22.02.2019 - 14:32:07 (modif: 22.02.2019 - 14:32:30), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Ale prejde do virtualky, ja to tak mam spravene a funguje mi to. Ubuntu a na tom mam dalsie Ubuntu vo virtualke, a prejde. A nerobil som pokial si dobre pamatam ziadnu magiu.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      21.02.2019 - 15:12:26 , level: 3, UP   NEW
vzdy si mozes nabootovat live usb. a ked to nainstalujes do windowsu, tak je to ine?

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mirex
 mirex      11.02.2019 - 09:05:15 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Ja som podaval B-cko elektronicky minuly rok, a aj tento ked ho zverejnia.
Robil som to inak v tom ze bol v tom, ze som nestahoval xml, vyplnal aj odosiela som podanie na financnasprava.sk, maju tam pekny formular ktory dopocitava vsetky sumy a vie nahrat aj prilohy.

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randlover
 randlover      11.02.2019 - 08:54:32 , level: 2, UP   NEW
asi mierne off topic, ale toto isté v česku:

a) cez webový formulár vyplním priznanie, stiahnem ako xml
b) prihlásim sa do datovej schránky (cez web), odošlem xml finančnej správe

certifikáty nepotrebujem (hoci mám), vydanie prihlasovacích údajov do datovej schránky totiž nahrádza identifikáciu subjektu (doručujú sa poštou do vlastných rúk) a správy odoslané cez datovú schránku sa považujú za správy odoslané jej majiteľom i bez elektronického podpisu

a aby som nemystifikoval:
- dá sa to xml-ko poslať priamo cez webový formulár finančnej správy, ale musí sa podpísať elektronickým podpisom (takže sú dva možné spôsoby elektronického podania)
- nerobil som to v linuxe, ale keďže sú to všetko aplikácie bežiace v internetovom prehliadači, tak predpokladám, že by to fungovalo i v ňom

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michal tucny
 michal tucny      10.02.2019 - 23:12:52 , level: 2, UP   NEW
ja este cakam na nejake vyuctovania, ale uz som si to na necisto skusal.
do aplikacie edane som sa prihlasil pomocou obcianskeho, ale aktualny formular na danove priznanie som tam nenasiel, aj ked som dal aktualizovat formulare je tam len DP za rok 2017...

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      11.02.2019 - 06:23:57 , level: 3, UP   NEW
ja som daval FO typ A, B tam este nemaju

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SYNAPSE CREATOR
 lubomier.sk      31.01.2019 - 20:16:00 (modif: 31.01.2019 - 20:23:43) [2K] , level: 1, UP   NEW  HARDLINK !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Menil som zelezo pod UBUNTU. Okrem systemoveho disku a raid storage sa komplet vsetko vymenilo.

Po update initramfs pekne nabehol cely system, ale problem nastal neocakvane na starne storage. Mam tam stack RAID / LUKS / LVM2 / EXT4

A za toho pána neviem namountovať filesystém. Je určite zdravý, išiel pekne namontovat pod Tails aj pod ubuntu live...

mount /dev/mapper/crypto--vg-storage--lv /mnt/storage/
mount: /mnt/storage: mount(2) system call failed: Structure needs cleaning.


Samozrejme ze googel. Radi väčšinou fsck. Ten hlasi všetko v poriadku, clean... Ked som forcol fsck repair par zblbnutych inodov opravil. Vysledok stale rovnaky vraj štrúktúra potrebuje vyčistiť.

fsck /dev/mapper/crypto--vg-storage--lv
fsck from util-linux 2.31.1
e2fsck 1.44.1 (24-Mar-2018)
/dev/mapper/crypto--vg-storage--lv: clean, 1509918/94252288 files, 323610962/432799744 blocks



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azazel
 azazel      29.01.2019 - 01:02:37 , level: 1, UP   NEW
Ako najrychlejse prenesiem povedzme 30 giga medzi linuxovou masinou a mac-om (pripadne inou linuxovou masinou) bez toho, aby som nieco instaloval?

Zatial to robim tak, ze prenasam tar-ko (skomprimovane, ak to pomoze) cez netcat na oboch koncoh a skontrolujem md5-kou alebo sha-whatever hashom. Zatial sa mi este nestalo, ze by som musel nieco prenasat 2 krat.

Ale je nieco blbovzdornejsie a rovnako rychle?

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ventYl
 ventYl      29.01.2019 - 22:04:19 , level: 2, UP   NEW
na nejakej vzorke dat by som si vyskusal rsync, ci nebude pohodlnejsi ako toto. v linuxe je jeho pridanie otazkou jedneho commandu a v masoxe je IIRC v defaulte.

ale ak to rsync neoutperformne, tak ten tar bude najrychlejsi (sam som toto riesenie uz raz pouzil na podobny ucel). jediny iny tool, ktory by to dal je SCP, ale tam ta bude brzdit kryptografia, ktoru nejde uplne vypnut.

Shitty life is like radiation. You can sustain it for long time if daily doses are small.

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azazel
 azazel      30.01.2019 - 07:53:30 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Skusim rsync, scp je na velke veci shit. Dakujem :)

Moja motivacia je, ze vsftpd sa mi nechce instalovat, lebo to uz som musel par krat v robote robit a zlozito sa to konfiguruje.

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chaplin
 chaplin      31.01.2019 - 08:57:47 , level: 4, UP   NEW
rsync ma volbu -z, to celkom pomaha
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/188737/does-compression-option-z-with-rsync-speed-up-backup

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w
 w      30.01.2019 - 13:52:58 , level: 4, UP   NEW
gzip ma option rsyncable, mozno by som skusil benchmarkovat s tym (na realnych, nie syntetickych/nahodnych datach)

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w
 w      29.01.2019 - 08:08:39 , level: 2, UP   NEW
neviem ci mas 1G alebo 10G, kazdopadne pri tuneni by som asi siel do benchmarku konkretneho setupu, lebo vela ineho ako netcatovat to asi nevymyslis.

tzn. v zavislosti od CPUciek asi benchmark gz, xz, lzop na nejakej objemovej vzorke, zistis aky throughput vies zhruba dosiahnut kompresiou. mozno este vyuzivat viac jadier a ukladat na disk a ratat checksum paralelne, nech co najviac skratis cas na cely transfer.

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azazel
 azazel      29.01.2019 - 08:30:42 , level: 3, UP   NEW
wifi, 54 mbit.